(13-10-17, 04:28 PM)mlovolm Wrote: sci-fi, fantasy, realistic, semi-realistic?
i like things being as 'realistic' as possible
so i'd go for cyborg or genetic engineering/multation stuff :v or 'magical' multation/engineering :v
after all, humans die b'cause of aging+organism failures, so as long as the cells get renewed continuously, there's no death
or maybe just go scifi in fantasy, or 'seemingly-fantasy' scifi, stuff like, gods're actually not immortals, not 'living existences', but actually advanced AI get embedded with long-dead humans' 'conciousness'(memories)
When I read your post...
...Ghoul appear in my head.
Maybe...because of this:
Quote:after all, humans die b'cause of aging+organism failures, so as long as the cells get renewed continuously, there's no death
Yeah, you say continous regeneration of cell, which at the same time must need resources. Resources, or I must say, Food.
Do you understand?
P.S: I don't do well with Human Biology(Still studying), so if I wrong, please say. Also, English isn't my first language.
14-10-17, 04:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 14-10-17, 04:41 AM by mlovolm.)
human cells continuously multiply and assigned their roles all the time, though some slower than others, some much faster (like stomach cells), some live ass-long (like neurons), as humans age, the multiply slowed down, the immunity also get weakened, so that's where the deseases, illnesses, etc. coming in :p
(let's just skip the part where most people don't live a perfect healthy life)
so as long as u can get the the cells multiplied at a 'good pace' then u can stay 'immortal' (still have the chance of dying because of deseases though since it doesn't strengthen ur immunity than what u had :p)
resources certainly 're needed, but well, fantasy/scifi stuff :v if u can mutate urself so that u can multiply ur cells artifically, u should be able to 'cheat' a bit when it come to matters+energies complete preservation+absorbance xD
Aging is caused by the shortening of telomeres in the cells, which loses some length every time they replicate. So unless you find a way for the telomeres to maintain their length and not shorten every time the cells divide, immortality is impossible.
Quote:Aging is caused by the shortening of telomeres in the cells, which loses some length every time they replicate. So unless you find a way for the telomeres to maintain their length and not shorten every time the cells divide, immortality is impossible.
Thanks for the info!
But, if it goes that way, then, what if the 'telomeres' or the 'cells' itself is supplied from outside?
Example, because the 'telomeres' or 'cell' from an elderly person technicaly have 'short' age, then what if the 'cells' is supplied from...fresh-baby(I know, it's morally wrong, but still...).
But!!! My question will be eliminated if cell from a person is can't transfered to another person...
P.S: This topic always making a 'Ghoul' to appear in my head, because...you know, or not.
P.S.S: English is not my first language.
P.S.S.S: Hey, i just curious, but, is my english good? I don't know how to asses it.
14-10-17, 01:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-10-17, 01:59 PM by mlovolm.)
just similar to new organ transplanting (heart, kidney, liver, skin, etc. etc.), u'd need to find suitable source or the body simply reject the aliens, then it'd come to the philosophy question like the Ship of Theseus Paradox in which u keep on replacing part then part overtime
Then can we continue about what I want? Evolution of Human, I mean.
With above discussion, I understand that 'Cells' is the basis of human evolution(It's not like I don't know, but...it not that important before), so...can we switch to the magical?
If you want, of course. I am the one who asked for help, so if you want to continue the discussion, then...
P.S: Thank you again, I already had many 'done' evolution on my table. Although, many of it, is just secondary.
15-10-17, 05:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 15-10-17, 05:46 AM by mlovolm.)
with magic, u can simply do what ever u want xD it's quite convenient
"hey, this shouldn't work" - "it'd b'cause i say it'd, magic solve 'em all" xD
though similar to 'normal' evolution, if a genetic mutation coincidentally help the animal adapt to new environment, and coincidentally being able to survive and pass on, it'd remain, meanwhile, the ones that's not mutated, may get massacred by epidemics, etc.
mutation that doesn't affect the survivality should remain too
let's say humans suddenly get magically mutated into demons, with tails and horns or the like, maybe the very specific environment they appear in is brutal, with fighting and stuff, then the 'evolution' is possible or not depends on wether or not it'd be massacred or not, tails or horns can be grabbed so it's rather disadvantagous when fighting with something that capable of grabbing for example
if the humans decide that they want to eliminate all the demons, then the mutation genes died out (doesn't mean it won't appear again in the future), if not, then there u've it, a new magical-evolved species
horns and tails 're rather useless for a standing-on-2-legs humanoid species, but evolution isn't always about necessity so yeah
if the mutation is 'intentional' though, like all though RPG leveling-up-and-evolve fictions out there, then certainly it comes with necessity, not just for nice appearance, maybe the horn is disadvantagous when it come to hand-to-hand combat, but it's necessary for storing or shooting magic xD
just come up with any kind of imaginative mutation, evolution u want lol
Also, I make this thread to get ideas. Because, as you had said, the human race had many kinds of evolution.
Just I alone can't make as many rights now, so thank you very much.
Then, work hard!