Villain/Evil main character.

#1
Privjiet fellow readers and writers. I am currently in search for a story, where the main character would strive for, well, evil. Not an anti-hero, villain vs villain (You can take Iron teeth as an example for this bandits vs bandits) or stuff like that, but actually evil. Actually, Iron Teeth is a good example of such a story, but it doesn't have an aim.
I've only read one such story.

While i will also use the stories for reference, i'll also use them to relax a bit. A.k.a. help me find an interesting story where the mc isn't a goody two shoes.

Note: MC has to be relatively realistic though. And an MC that 'Just want to watch the world burn' is stupid, so please don't suggesst that unless there's solidity in it, like something one would expect from a demon lord and has that lords thoughts explained.

Thanks!

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#3
'CorpseDead' pid='825850' dateline='1499082417' Wrote: I am a Self-advert bitch.
If devouring people is 'evil', then you might like Queen of Devouring. The link is in my signature.
(No, it isn't a grinding story, even if it feels like that in the first few chapters.)

To me, evil is not paying heed to wider surroundings. Searching and getting what you want by any means necessary. Too bad the term is so vague.

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#4
'Ledos' pid='825851' dateline='1499083194' Wrote: To me, evil is not paying heed to wider surroundings. Searching and getting what you want by any means necessary. Too bad the term is so vague.

The MC works towards what she wants, along with her little team, which she has got after manipulating them... If people have to die as a result, then that's too bad for them. I suppose you meant this. XD
In short, you are looking for an MC who goes like: 'I do whatever I want.'
Hm, but in that case, even my other novel is somewhat like that.

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#5
'CorpseDead' pid='825853' dateline='1499086543' Wrote:
'Ledos' pid='825851' dateline='1499083194' Wrote: To me, evil is not paying heed to wider surroundings. Searching and getting what you want by any means necessary. Too bad the term is so vague.

The MC works towards what she wants, along with her little team, which she has got after manipulating them... If people have to die as a result, then that's too bad for them. I suppose you meant this. XD
In short, you are looking for an MC who goes like: 'I do whatever I want.'
Hm, but in that case, even my other novel is somewhat like that.

Ahh. It's just too vague. But, well, i'll still look into your novel. Thanks.

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#6
'Ledos' pid='825855' dateline='1499086880' Wrote: Ahh. It's just too vague. But, well, i'll still look into your novel. Thanks.

For some reason, this makes me feel is if I forced you into reading it. XDD I'm sorry for that, it wasn't my intention. >.<
It's more like, I tried to clarify what you meant by evil. Sorry, really.

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#7
'CorpseDead' pid='825856' dateline='1499089309' Wrote:
'Ledos' pid='825855' dateline='1499086880' Wrote: Ahh. It's just too vague. But, well, i'll still look into your novel. Thanks.

For some reason, this makes me feel is if I forced you into reading it. XDD I'm sorry for that, it wasn't my intention. >.<
It's more like, I tried to clarify what you meant by evil. Sorry, really.

No, it's nothing. There's just no proper definition of evil rather than morality.

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#10
Greetings there, Ledos. Always pleasant to find someone with similar taste. Your comment about knowing another fiction fitting this description caught my eye. Might i ask its name? Or even better, a link perhaps?

As for what you seek, I have been searching for something simiar (with no romance or harems in it..and i prefer male leads but we are getting side tracked). Id recommend:

Overlord, he acts more for the sake of his servants, like in arc one of your fiction but he genuinely doesnt care for any other humans. The goal justifies the means, after all.

Warlock of the magus world, the protagonist is willing to do anything for power, the romance and the like only show up after 700 chapters. Its brilliant, personally think it takes a bit of a turn downhill after around chapter 700 but its really good. Ought to be what your looking for.

Inspector of god, hes more of..well im not sure how to put it. He is evil but it might not be what your seeking for as he has done define goal besides seeing things burn (and this does fade in the end)

Reverend insanity, a rising title in this genre but its too early to tell and it has its flaws. It feels a bit forced at times.

Renegade Immortal, im biased but i think this might fit as well..not as good as warlock of the magus world but its worth a try.

The legendary moonlight sculptor. A classic, hes not the evil you see but his greed know no bounds. Im only recommending as the sort of pure evil you seek is..immensly hard to find.

Tower of karma might work but..its a work of lesser quality in my opinion.

Oroboros Record ~Circus of Oubeniel~ is suppose to be a great work with a man who is willing to do anything to achieve his goal but i have yet to read it myself so i can not evaluate it.

Fate Zero, visual novel or anime. You might have heard of it but the lead fits what you seek, willing to do anything to achieve his goals.

Adding code geass and death note as well. Its anime but it still has it.

Saga of Tanya the evil, light novel as well as anime. The anime has exceeded the translated chapthers at the moment.

The Dark King, it tried a bit too hard as he rarely ever fails and he dislikes sacrificing allies but other than that, it fits.

http://royalroadl.com/fiction/4802/how-to-survive-a-summoning-101 Might fit your taste as well..I do doubt it but its been awhile since i read it and the author was quite firm when appearing in threads similar to this one. Shame it hasnt been updated in awhile.

Im not sure your into fanfics so il leave that out.


Hm..thats it for now. Il come back if i can think of anything. My apologies on mentioning so few that exists on this site. Its just that I have yet to find that many. Its..rare for people to write about villains. At least proper ones.



Morraren

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#11
'Morraren' pid='825915' dateline='1499210204' Wrote: Greetings there, Ledos. Always pleasant to find someone with similar taste. Your comment about knowing another fiction fitting this description caught my eye. Might i ask its name? Or even better, a link perhaps?

As for what you seek, I have been searching for something simiar (with no romance or harems in it..and i prefer male leads but we are getting side tracked). Id recommend:

Overlord, he acts more for the sake of his servants, like in arc one of your fiction but he genuinely doesnt care for any other humans. The goal justifies the means, after all.

Warlock of the magus world, the protagonist is willing to do anything for power, the romance and the like only show up after 700 chapters. Its brilliant, personally think it takes a bit of a turn downhill after around chapter 700 but its really good. Ought to be what your looking for.

Inspector of god, hes more of..well im not sure how to put it. He is evil but it might not be what your seeking for as he has done define goal besides seeing things burn (and this does fade in the end)

Reverend insanity, a rising title in this genre but its too early to tell and it has its flaws. It feels a bit forced at times.

Renegade Immortal, im biased but i think this might fit as well..not as good as warlock of the magus world but its worth a try.

The legendary moonlight sculptor. A classic, hes not the evil you see but his greed know no bounds. Im only recommending as the sort of pure evil you seek is..immensly hard to find.

Tower of karma might work but..its a work of lesser quality in my opinion.

Oroboros Record ~Circus of Oubeniel~ is suppose to be a great work with a man who is willing to do anything to achieve his goal but i have yet to read it myself so i can not evaluate it.

Fate Zero, visual novel or anime. You might have heard of it but the lead fits what you seek, willing to do anything to achieve his goals.

Adding code geass and death note as well. Its anime but it still has it.

Saga of Tanya the evil, light novel as well as anime. The anime has exceeded the translated chapthers at the moment.

The Dark King, it tried a bit too hard as he rarely ever fails and he dislikes sacrificing allies but other than that, it fits.

http://royalroadl.com/fiction/4802/how-to-survive-a-summoning-101 Might fit your taste as well..I do doubt it but its been awhile since i read it and the author was quite firm when appearing in threads similar to this one. Shame it hasnt been updated in awhile.

Im not sure your into fanfics so il leave that out.


Hm..thats it for now. Il come back if i can think of anything. My apologies on mentioning so few that exists on this site. Its just that I have yet to find that many. Its..rare for people to write about villains. At least proper ones.



Morraren

Thank man, Ainz "dies".

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#14
Here on RRL, you have a bunch of options. All of these are pretty long.

http://royalroadl.com/fiction/4244/anti-hero-journey-of-fear - Very dark, not for the faint of heart

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/2813/the-damned

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8312/the-book-of-mors-summoned } These two are kind of alternate realities of the same story
https://royalroadl.com/fiction/11348/the-summoned }

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/9469/game-divinity-heroics-our-reality

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/3977/the-child-of-ebon - Very manipulative MC

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/2022/path-of-transcendence - Very dark, not for the faint of heart

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8160/a-knights-redo-completed

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/11379/headshot-a-zombie-litrpg-novel - MC is a zombie, goal is to eat people

Probably more dark and chaotic than straight up evil.
https://mike777ac.com/hardcore-op-ness/

Fun series with a dragon MC:
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Delasangre-Alan-F-Troop/dp/0451458710

These have a lot of sex:
http://royalroadl.com/fiction/3063/rehamster

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/6618/rules-free-vrmmo-life

EDIT: I'm adding Fanfictions, too.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4811481/1/StarGate-Galactic-Imperium - A definite rec

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10182397/1/The-Nightmare-Man

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8704528/1/Enveloped-in-the-Darkness - This one is complete w/ a sequel

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5866937/1/Control - Very dark, not for the faint of heart

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8501689/1/The-Havoc-side-of-the-Force - Who said being evil isn't fun?

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5864168/1/Amenaza - Long and a slow buildup

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11671168/1/Shards-of-Impossibility

Now these two...the MCs are necessarily evil, but they're world leaders that are willing to do anything to safeguard their people. They definitely seem evil to their enemies.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11081651/1/The-Dragon-Queens

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6254783/1/Rise-of-the-Wizards

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11209456/1/Re-Gamer - This one's LITRPG

If you happen to want any more, you can look through community: https://www.fanfiction.net/community/Good-Guys-Gone-Evil/64001/

Or my Profile's Favorited Stories https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4480023/Arad-an-Bas

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#16
I just mentioned this in another thread but one MC that is villainous is Catherine from Practical Guide to Evil. Some people have trouble navigating around the website and finding the first chapter of the first book so here's a link: https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/prologue/
Probably one of the better web novels I've found ranking up there with stuff like Worm, Powered (or is it super powered?), The Iron teeth, A good student and The eagle's flight.
novels I just listed have:
characters that are well constructed and memorable,
Dialogue that actually flows rather well,
Intriguing plot or story line,
A good writing style (stuff that makes it easier to follow and is well edited) and,
generally are enjoyable reads.
Just realised I'm practically advertising novels. But if you want anti-hero or villian MC try Worm and Iron Teeth as well as Practical guide to Evil. ALL of them possessing qualities that I just mentioned.

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#17
'Tanaka Tomoyuki' pid='830974' dateline='1513115220' Wrote:
'what4ghost' pid='830964' dateline='1513088451' Wrote: http://royalroadl.com/fiction/4244/anti-hero-journey-of-fear - Very dark, not for the faint of heart



its dark yes but its still shit how this peace of shit got 4 stars i will never know...... it needs to be deleted the mc is a fucking retard and because of his stat choices will be fucked in the late game no matter what he does (if that was a real life online game) no matter what people say about this story never read it its a waste of internet. i mean having low luck is ok but no luck is asking the world to fuck you over ever step of the way.....

1) Don't necro threads.

2) Don't bash other authors and their stories. It's unsightly and toxic. It's fine if you want to criticize the story, but calling it a piece of s* and demanding that it gets deleted is going too far.

I've received such comments before and I know how damaging it is to one's self-esteem. I don't want it to happen to other authors if I can help it.

I've read that one, like 7 chapters or so. And while that review of it is toxic and stuff, it's true. But it doesn't review the story, it's more like an RPG char one would make in a game. The story isn't bad, but not good either, it lacks any kind of solidity and feels like things just happen randomly in it. Grammar is nice, except for the obvious mistakes one could fix by dashing an eye through it. And yes, the choices made are stupid and random. Everything bad the MC does happens in about 1-2 hours of actual in-story time [3.] (if that made sense).
1. Bad things happen to bad people intentionally, while good people are simply unlucky, that should be an unbroken rule in any kind of story. I understand the first chapter of the story where he kills a random NPC for information, but randomly slaughtering others is stupid. That maybe just my opinion though, but slow and steady progress will win over a dash of luck.
2. "Bad things happen to bad people intentionally, while good people are simply unlucky, that should be an unbroken rule in any kind of story." That's not exactly true, because different people have different tastes and that is not something i can judge, but on a personal perspective - it's true most of the time.
3. Despair. The MC in the story is doing cruel things on purpose because he's shooting videos or whatever. Instant cruelty is boring and stupid. Make love, be kind and then turn it all around, both the reactions and feelings would be amplified by 10 times in reality and doing it without any actual need, is, well... you know...

It's a story, it's fantasy, but without actual realism, a.k.a necessity, it will never be actually good to people who like to read just for the heck of it. The other thing would be where the MC is actually, full fledged, and deemed by the author as RETARDED, a.k.a. insane, but to write a good story about insanity would require you to have a PHD or something in Psichology.

I'll check out some other works and Evil/Villain MC best fits the Japanese LN 'Overlord' and The Iron Teeth by the whatever manguy or something. Thanks for your suggestions.


Ah, yes. If anyone actually reads this comment: something that psichologically or philosophically explains the needs to an end of the MC's actions is a huge plus in my book, or yours. lole.

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#18
Based on that las comment about explaining stuff I'd say maybe Dungeon Defense and the novel of Youjo Senki

https://shalvationtranslations.wordpress.com/dungeon-defense-toc/ He's considered evil by many and his actions are really for his own and not for the good of the whole

A sort of evil is a novel/manga/anime called Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki) and the same for Overlord which you mentioned above, check Youjo Senki out, it's good. But (apperently) in the novel the author gives a lot(/too much) of information

Then on rrl I can only think of:

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8051/the-better-side-of-evil

and perhaps these 2:

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8894/everybody-loves-large-chests has anti-hero tag, but the MC does all the things for his own greed and survival

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/12374/once-more

It's a bit of a hit and miss with these.

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'Barracudaz' pid='831442' dateline='1514712773' Wrote: Based on that las comment about explaining stuff I'd say maybe Dungeon Defense and the novel of Youjo Senki

https://shalvationtranslations.wordpress.com/dungeon-defense-toc/ He's considered evil by many and his actions are really for his own and not for the good of the whole

A sort of evil is a novel/manga/anime called Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki) and the same for Overlord which you mentioned above, check Youjo Senki out, it's good. But (apperently) in the novel the author gives a lot(/too much) of information

Then on rrl I can only think of:

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8051/the-better-side-of-evil

and perhaps these 2:

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/8894/everybody-loves-large-chests has anti-hero tag, but the MC does all the things for his own greed and survival

https://royalroadl.com/fiction/12374/once-more

It's a bit of a hit and miss with these.

I've come to realise that with most of these, it's not that they're bad, it's just that i dislike them. This genre of Villains is usually done as a comedy in more popular cases and I realise that's because you can't actually make interesting, logical, actual evil. It's just unrealistic and stupid.
But in the cases of Youjo Senki and Overlord and The Iron Teeth, the MC's have grounds. They have something that is theirs, precious to them. In the case of Youjo Senki, Tanya has his/her millitary squad and a goal, Overlord - the minions, Iron Teeth - Gold and followers. Each of them have something precious and, well, things like that, they just ignore the actual surroundings, things, people who aren't close to them.
Those three are, in fact, just simple anti-hero MC's and i guess that's what I am actually searching for and am just stupid to not realise it.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

I am a dipshit and I deserve to die, but I won't. Hue.

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#20
'Morraren' Wrote: Oroboros Record ~Circus of Oubeniel~ is suppose to be a great work with a man who is willing to do anything to achieve his goal but i have yet to read it myself so i can not evaluate it.

I've just finished on chapter 88 (91 if you include the interludes and such other chapters). The story is amazing and the characters have their flaws. Still the MC and his followers (oh yea he has those) are very warped (by the MC's hand nonetheless).

It is a really good novel that I really hope will be continued at some point but as with stories that have no activity for a Year or more it is very unlikely.

If you don't mind reading something that is on hiatus or probably dropped for more than 2 years then go ahead. Knights of Lunadia has a partially translated version (24 chapters as of now I think) or here are the raws.