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Adventure Mode [New Way to Curate / Find Novels]

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(31-12-17, 12:41 AM)Media in Sanity Wrote: To me, this looks like an overcomplication of the current review system, which would also require that much more mod work to keep going.

Doesn't every new feature/change have to be coded in?

Are you one of the coders? I am oblivious to the operational part, so maybe you could give us an insider's insight.
Thank you for the time.

I'm not a coder, but I am concerned as to what level of moderation and work there would have to be to keep this going.
Who will have to check the validity of adventures? The mods?
How are adventures going to be kept? Are you putting a system in place to not have multiple thousands of adventures active at once (RRL has well over 10k fictions), supposing users always have an ability to make their own adventure?
Suppose every 4th person (account) makes their own adventure. That's about... 17 thousand adventures. Excellent, we now have a list that's bigger than RRL's fiction list. That is only handled by upvote/downvote systems. The same system which was discarded after 2 days of testing on RRL fictions themselves.
Not to mention, that there'd have to be a system that checks for duplicates of adventures.

On the coding side, I can only assume that introducing an entirely new system for RRL to use will most likely take a huge amount of time, considering that the current WIP features of remaking the increasingly broken forum system, finishing the author premium, and [redacted], have taken enough time as is.

(31-12-17, 12:41 AM)Media in Sanity Wrote: As a completely user-driven system, this is more than likely going to give similar results to that of the ranking list we have now, which is, also, a user-driven system.

If people only made Popular Adventure - Fantasy - (Add another word) adventures, I'd be sure of it:
We had recommendations tested for a few weeks. Guess what, the top stories were present on most of the people's lists.
If we already see that there's an enormous population that searches for the same kind of novels, is it not a fair assumption that any system made to find stories will invariably go towards that population?

(31-12-17, 12:41 AM)Media in Sanity Wrote: Here are a couple suggestions that people have made to make the search function more interesting:
https://forum.royalroadl.com/showthread.php?tid=99193
https://forum.royalroadl.com/showthread.php?tid=99183

I have already provided my input on the very threads you're linking, one of which doesn't actually suggest anything new.

I'm not saying that the system doesn't pose any validity or that it doesn't have any good ideas. It just appears to be an excessive amount of work that will more likely than not produce similar results to what we already have.
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I like this proposal a lot, I think it would be really really helpful and completely worth any amount of work it might take. I agree that there might be a lot, and it would take some work to sort out the duplicates and all, but if you manage to find a way to do so, I think this would be amazing.
Media's genre suggestion was also wonderful- I feel like it's always the fantasy books on the top of the list, which, although often very good, are not my usual style of writing.
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Add something like "last updated: (select from dropbox) x weeks ago" and a "best rating" (in the "order" dropbox) to the advanced search feature and you will have nearly similar results.

I am not in favor of the proposed changes, because it will make it harder to navigate the website, and, for newcomers, it's already not the most user-friendly website to begin with. There is stuff that should be improved upon before new features will be implemented.
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(14-01-18, 07:11 PM)qtru Wrote: Add something like  "last updated:  (select from dropbox) x weeks ago" and a "best rating" (in the "order" dropbox) to the advanced search feature and you will have nearly similar results.

I am not in favor of the proposed changes, because it will make it harder to navigate the website, and, for newcomers, it's already not the most user-friendly website to begin with. There is stuff that should be improved upon before new features will be implemented.
The site seems very straight-forward to me. A new tab is strictly necessary.

Not having the feature won't fill the gap that exists.

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150 people browsing recommendations? Everyday? What recommendations do is somewhat the idea of adventure mode, yet without the image and critic's hooks. The proposal is to give a platform to a demand/supply that already exists. There is a serious need for a new way to find novels.

My hope is that enough people can see this thread and voice in favor of this. Let everyone know that this is important.
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Again, what you're assuming is that everyone will be a good critic, with impeccable hooks, a taste towards something uncommon for RRL (ie. not litRPG/Reincarnation/Wuxia), and that the system will be able to handle multiple thousands of user-created content that will probably not be curated by the staff since there are currently 3 supermods.
Putting all that in the hands of tested-to-not-work upvote/downvote system as the sole basis of consideration.

We have already tested user-based recommendations. They pointed towards the Top10 a large portion of the time. We scrapped it because it wasn't giving any noticeable results. People were already getting redirected where they already wanted to go.
We had a group solely oriented towards atypical RRL novels. They were disbanded after way too much drama, most noticeably because a large portion of our userbase didn't like atypical RRL novels and therefore thought of them, to put it bluntly and in a quote, 'elitist'.
As to how much user-friendly the site is, I can safely say that one of the most common questions I'm getting is "when is my fiction going to be approved" even though it's in print just above the submission form and in our FAQ. So there's that for user-friendliness.
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